Thread:RABNerd VP/@comment-43984080-20191001075131/@comment-39066032-20191105120226

First, I have no idea what these comments calling people "fags" or "retards" are. You also seem to be mistaking some of stuff I did edit in. However, I will have to say that most of your arguments still center around your personal preferences. Once again, you have the right to your interpretation, but I think you're really being excessively bound by the prism of social media algorithms which exist primarily to echo one's own opinions. I could easily get the impression of Kawoshin not even existing if I were to take my recommendations into account. I've seen people claim Kawoshin was dead just as much as you've claimed it's everywhere. But it's not that hard to try and look at numbers and the bigger picture.

I mean, it shouldn't surprise anyone that a channel called "Are They Gay?" is going to have that sort of interpretation, or threads specifically regarding queerness which would also cater to people with those interpretations, or Tumblr in general - in which incidentally the Eva blogs are almost all inactive for years. Hell, that silly Asushin theory video got more views in one year than almost all Kawoshin videos ever. The Asushin kiss scene has over 4 million views. You find all sorts of shippy interpretations echoed in those Eva analysis videos, like the Adam & Eve stuff at the very least. There are at least 3 times more Asushin videos with more than 100k views then Kawoshin ones. This also applies to AMVs and such. Or you can look at stuff like fanfics, with something like Advice and Trust alone simply smashing some of the top K/S fics combined - which could only gather attention up until 2016 or so anyway. Or look at the prevalence of ships on the Eva Reddit, or the prevalence in TV Tropes on general, like I've mentioned. "loud minorities" go either way, and it's easy to get an impression towards any given end if you happen to stumble somewhere that group is being vocal. This does not mean either ship is necessarily dominating, but it really takes some more research to come at any conclusion. Even the links you've provided show there is no clear consensus or majority - look at the Evageeks thread in your first post, for instance.

I will not bother mentioning your arguments about canonicity however, since your arguments are usually quite old and already debated or even refuted then in some of your links, like treating Khara's translation and "Dan's attempts", then this would make Khara's translation of 3.0 equally invalid since they were handled by the same person, or how you can easily find all sorts of symbolism and arguments being made for other ships as well. Try searching how Asuka or Rei are depicted towards Shinji in their uber romantic official material, for instance, even though Anno is super frank that's just supposed to make money and they're simply responding to fan demand. There are also many, many examples of people feeling very outraged at the franchise over the years - Rei and Reishin past 3.0 is just one of many examples.

Reember the death threats?

But as I have mentioned before, the Eva franchise and fandom is far more disparate than you seem to understand and the wikis cannot simply cater to any sector's specific desires. I have been around this fandom for years and I know people who have been around since the 90s, which is why I believe you'll probably never feel satisfied, because that is simply the nature of the franchise and the fandom, but you're simply one of many.