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Winnerloser is the non-binary ship between Winner and Loser from the Battle for Dream Island fandom.
Canon[]
Battle for Dream Island[]
Winner and Loser technically show up together in BFDI 7, when gold cubes, which are later used as the inspiration for Loser's asset, are used to represent the losers and a purple material, later used for Winner's asset, is used to represent the winners. However, at this point, they are not actual characters.
It was confirmed by Winner in a later episode that it actually was the two of them in BFDI 7.
The Power of Two[]
There is not much canon content of the ship, as Winner is a TPOT debuter and Loser stayed on BFB, so they never directly interact with each other. However, Clock talks about Winner's past with Loser after he notices that they're now on the show.
After Eggy and Cake ask who Clock's looking at, he tells them it's Winner. When neither of them know who they are, Clock goes on to describe Winner's past with Loser.
According to Clock, Winner and Loser were a duo that the very start of Loser's career. They performed together, toured together, and ate chicken nuggets together.
During Clock's explanation of Winner and Loser's past together, images are shown on the screen. One of these images shows Winner and Loser in a photo together, with Winner using their arm to make it look like they're holding a tower (presumably the Eiffel Tower). Loser is shown to be smiling and even laughing at this.
Another one of those images shows Loser leaning his arm on Winner's side as they do a finger gun with their hand. Notably, Loser also does this finger gun both in another image shown during Clock's speech, when it's shown that Loser "went mainstream", and in BFB 1 when he's saying hello to Tree. Based on this, though it's likely just a coincidence, you could speculate that this finger gun symbol is something that either Loser got from Winner or Winner got from Loser, hence why they never do it again after this image is shown.
As Clock describes, there is an image of Loser and Winner sitting on a platform while eating chicken nuggets together. Both of them look satisfied.
There is an image of Loser and Winner introducing themselves to a crowd, presumably as a duo like Clock described. They are both smiling and waving.
Their "duo-ship" ends when Loser begins to "go mainstream", going solo, leading to Winner fading away into obscurity. This (Loser and Winner being a duo) is implied to not be common knowledge, as Clock claims that "only a real Loser fan would know that".
Winner's nightmare takes place in the Loser museum. There, Winner reveals their backstory with Loser, saying that they were happy that he was happy when describing how he got all of the attention. Winner describes that they were "inseperable", coming up with games and performing shows for their friends. The visuals in this scene show Winner looking over at Loser, smiling. They toured Goiky together (the image shows them on top of the Eiffel Tower), got "a brief job from the speaker box" (referring to the winner and loser shown in BFDI), and Winner says that they "got to travel the road with [their] best friend" (the image shows Winner and Loser in a car together). When Winner says they don't want to make the Loser Cake movie with him, Loser walks away very upset. Winner says that they just wanted their friendship, not all the fame. He says that they aren't mad at them when they ask, and they appear concerned later, saying that they "hadn't heard from him". Upon seeing Loser perform Loser Cake alone, Winner says that "Loser Cake was no longer ours. It was his." They end their flashback by saying that Loser had chosen fame over their friendship despite what they had wanted.
Despite the debatly negative nature of their flashback, after talking it out with Clock, Winner says that they think they're ready to move on from their past with Loser, finishing their nightmare by saying "Goodbye, Loser. And good luck, wherever you are."
Fanon[]
Speculation about many aspects of Winner and Loser's relationship began after TPOT 1, however, since that episode, nothing has been confirmed. While they're never shown to still be on good terms, they're also never shown to be on bad terms, leaving their current feelings towards each other ambiguous. Despite that, many fans believe that they're enemies after Loser became more famous, leading to people not liking the ship. Some people also view them as having a more "sibling-like" bond, or even actually being siblings, leading to them obviously not liking the ship. It's overshadowed by Loser and Winner's more popular ships, Cakeser and Winnerclock respectively. The lack of interactions, and them being on different shows, also leads to people not caring for the ship.
TPOT 10's reveal of their past has caused people to assume that Loser was a bad person, and that the ship wouldn't work out because of that. Another popular "theory" (moreso played as a joke) is that Winner and Loser are exes.
Fandom[]
- FAN FICTION
- Loser & Winner tag on AO3
- TUMBLR
- Winnerloser posts on Tumblr
Trivia[]
- The S! and The Losers's team names directly parallel each other, as Loser was honored to have his name in the team name, while Winner was uncomfortable with the attention.
- Adding onto the last point, they mirror each other, with Loser accepting the praise and attention from his fans and Winner not liking being the center of attention, getting uncomfortable from the attention, namely from Clock.
- Their names could be a play on words, as Loser, despite being called "Loser", is a "winner", being very popular and famous. Winner, despite being called "Winner", is less of a "winner", being more obscure and not famous like loser (though they're happier with that).
- Several scenes in Winner's flashback in TPOT 10 have color palettes that (unintentionally) resemble pride flags.
